Comments on: The Decline of Fashion Photography

By: souleye cisse

souleye cisse — Mon, 04 May 2009 01:10:17 +0000

I read the article myself but being an artist and a photographer, I was somewhat critical of her bias. you cannot judge the political views of an artist before you grant them status. a decadent artist can be a great artist. I have also some reason to wonder if that lady really understands photography, because writing an article about photography without a single mention of steven meisel is bordering on ignorance. that said, I don’t subscribe to the notion that old is great and contemporary is mediocre. who knows, today’s photographers may be hailed by future generations as geniuses. as the theory goes, humanity is decadent because creators of the past are always greater than those of the present. hmmm!

By: Steve Cooper » Blog Archive » The Rise And Fall of Art Forms

Steve Cooper » Blog Archive » The Rise And Fall of Art Forms — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:25:52 +0000

[...] things you should read; this coilhouse post introducing “The Decline of Fashion [...]

By: Dysphem

Dysphem — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:46:51 +0000

Oh, no! Not fashion photography, too!

It would seem that one of the objectives of the surrealist movement is in the process of coming to fruition: total dissolution of the element of taste with regards to the human viewer’s experience of art.

Make that all art.

By: D

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:57:33 +0000

‘If photographers and editors really cared about the role of women in society, they would use models above the age of 20, who look like they could complete a sentence.’
Lovely.

Fashion… Marco Polo had some amazing catalogues out. Didn’t notice them til -88 (and a few years later they got boring) but they were very nice, with whippets, dalmatians and tall, pale, freckled women framed by dark woods. Armani rarely fails to impress, early 90s had great black and white catalogues.

I’m not sure there’s a big difference US/Europe. Agreed that the good fashion images I see are few and further apart than they used to me (admittedly, there was a couple of years when everything I saw was Hilfigerized and I stopped shopping that kind of magazine).

By: zoetica

zoetica — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:59:57 +0000

She had me until “Fashion photography isn’t obligated to take readers into an elegant fantasyland, though that certainly was nice. But it should be different from photojournalism, and especially photojournalism concentrating on society’s dark side.”

By: lauren

lauren — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:24:42 +0000

One thing I would like to applaud Coilhouse for is it’s focus on photography. As an aspiring photographer myself, it’s great to see articles like this here. Also, you bring attention to inspiring photographers, such as in Dolls of Libya, Exactitudes. Even more fun articles, like the Top 5 Alt Photo Cliches, are a must read. Keep up the great work Coilhouse!

By: Tequila

Tequila — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:48:18 +0000

Simple and to the point. I may not agree on all written but it did open up a lot of topics for debate. In an age when so many want to be in or connect to the fashion industry on all levels…you’ve quite a bit to drown in for better or worse. That glut has to eventually cause some problems at the top…all the more accelerated by how everyone loves to pin the downfall on any craft on those currently getting the most attention for it…though the bit about the “Notice ME! shock tactics” is dead on. That’s far more to blame than some of the more reaching elements having to do with feminism and misogyny. The Testino comments could have been a feature all their own…that “style” also has its part in changing how some photographers schooled or not see the craft…

The Fashion Illustration comment seemed way out of place though…more so given it kinda ignores the elements that borrows heavy from now more than ever.

By: Alysa

Alysa — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:40:32 +0000

This is fascinating, yet I can’t help but feel that Lerhman’s argument (at least, as you’ve presented it here) applies *specifically* to America. One might say that this country does, in a variety of areas if not all, favor commerce over art, whereas Europe for example does not. And fashion photography is like a little microcosmic example of this. European fashion photography is far FAR more arty than American, often completely blurring the line with Art Photography.

This often carries over into retail as well, with American stores mostly buying the tamest possible pieces from designers (even designers known for their wilder and more conceptual collections), to sell to their American customers. And then in Europe you have stores and shoppers with a more refined sense of art, and how it relates to function, and to what they put on their bodies.

Mainstream American fashion magazines also tend to have more content about things other than fashion, such as celebrity gossip and articles about sex. It’s just a different view of the world – one that does not allow for nearly as much Art of aesthetic experimentation.