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	<title>Comments on: Heavy Metal East: &#8220;Music is the weapon of the future&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jenny G. Bowen</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2008/11/heavy-metal-east-music-is-the-weapon-of-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10792</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny G. Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice piece David.   :-)

As Rex Parker first pointed out - 
In America, hip-hop and the new music that is emerging from that subculture (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/girltalk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Girl Talk&lt;/a&gt; would be an example) are genres of music that are capable of incorporating future generations into emerging global recognitions rather than retaining past aggressions residual from previous generations.  As the artist Nas (arguably best rapper of all time) said on his latest album &#039;NIGGER&#039;:

We in chronic need of a second look of the law books
And the whole race dichotomy
Too many rappers, athletes, and actors
But not enough niggas in NASA
Who give you the latest dances, trends, and fashion
But when it comes to residuals, they look past us
Woven into the fabric, they can&#039;t stand us
Even in white tee&#039;s, blue jeans, and red bandanas

True dat.  But hip-hop artists helped bridge a hug gap in our history&#039;s culture and we now have a black President-Elect.  Hopefully we will see art uplift even more people in our society &amp; cultures. 

As David Forbes points out in this article, &quot;often change is only an anthem away&quot;.  Art has the ability to reach across borders and to connect to our universal sensations in essence of humanity.  Be it Middle Eastern Metal or American Hip-Hop, this emergence of global art and creative sub-cultures gives me a hope for the future.  Too often when you watch media news you see hate, fear, &amp; loathing against people living on this planet but in a different world.  Here we see a chance for the artists emerging from the Millennial generation to go forward and unite &amp; conquer with art, rather than divide &amp; destroy with politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice piece David.   :-)</p>
<p>As Rex Parker first pointed out &#8211;<br />
In America, hip-hop and the new music that is emerging from that subculture (<a href="http://www.myspace.com/girltalk" rel="nofollow">Girl Talk</a> would be an example) are genres of music that are capable of incorporating future generations into emerging global recognitions rather than retaining past aggressions residual from previous generations.  As the artist Nas (arguably best rapper of all time) said on his latest album &#8216;NIGGER&#8217;:</p>
<p>We in chronic need of a second look of the law books<br />
And the whole race dichotomy<br />
Too many rappers, athletes, and actors<br />
But not enough niggas in NASA<br />
Who give you the latest dances, trends, and fashion<br />
But when it comes to residuals, they look past us<br />
Woven into the fabric, they can&#8217;t stand us<br />
Even in white tee&#8217;s, blue jeans, and red bandanas</p>
<p>True dat.  But hip-hop artists helped bridge a hug gap in our history&#8217;s culture and we now have a black President-Elect.  Hopefully we will see art uplift even more people in our society &amp; cultures. </p>
<p>As David Forbes points out in this article, &#8220;often change is only an anthem away&#8221;.  Art has the ability to reach across borders and to connect to our universal sensations in essence of humanity.  Be it Middle Eastern Metal or American Hip-Hop, this emergence of global art and creative sub-cultures gives me a hope for the future.  Too often when you watch media news you see hate, fear, &amp; loathing against people living on this planet but in a different world.  Here we see a chance for the artists emerging from the Millennial generation to go forward and unite &amp; conquer with art, rather than divide &amp; destroy with politics.</p>
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		<title>By: m1k3y</title>
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		<dc:creator>m1k3y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2008/11/heavy-metal-east-music-is-the-weapon-of-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10680</link>
		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Goat - Since I live here, I&#039;m pretty sure you can take my word for it, there&#039;s a very active Industrial / EBM scene in Israel with a constant flow of events. I&#039;m not sure if this is actually surprising, seeing as unlike Morocco or Egypt, Israel is a liberal democracy with a very significant cultural adoption of the west. We have our emo scum and our krushing rivetheads like everyone else ;)

I also happen to be friendly with much of the noize scene in Israel. Just a couple of nights ago we had Moljebka Pvlse and Črno Klank playing with some of Israel&#039;s finest.

Speaking of which be sure to check out Ron_Zed DIY Records for some of my personal favorites in Israeli noize. Ta. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Goat &#8211; Since I live here, I&#8217;m pretty sure you can take my word for it, there&#8217;s a very active Industrial / EBM scene in Israel with a constant flow of events. I&#8217;m not sure if this is actually surprising, seeing as unlike Morocco or Egypt, Israel is a liberal democracy with a very significant cultural adoption of the west. We have our emo scum and our krushing rivetheads like everyone else ;)</p>
<p>I also happen to be friendly with much of the noize scene in Israel. Just a couple of nights ago we had Moljebka Pvlse and Črno Klank playing with some of Israel&#8217;s finest.</p>
<p>Speaking of which be sure to check out Ron_Zed DIY Records for some of my personal favorites in Israeli noize. Ta. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Goat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shay mentions an (alleged) Israeli industrial scene; to go further underground, I can attest to a very active Israeli ambient/noise/powerelectronics scene as well, whose godfather is Vadim Gusis (Chaos As Shelter/Agnivolok).

It always &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; been all about the music. Loud is its own language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shay mentions an (alleged) Israeli industrial scene; to go further underground, I can attest to a very active Israeli ambient/noise/powerelectronics scene as well, whose godfather is Vadim Gusis (Chaos As Shelter/Agnivolok).</p>
<p>It always <i>has</i> been all about the music. Loud is its own language.</p>
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		<title>By: k paul blume</title>
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		<dc:creator>k paul blume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following item from The Futurist Top Ten Future Developments might prove relevant:
9.&lt;i&gt; The Middle East will become more secular while religious influence in China will grow. Popular support for religious government is declining in places like Iraq, according to a University of Michigan study. The researchers report that in 2004 only one-fourth of respondents polled believed that Iraq would be a better place if religion and politics were separated. By 2007, that proportion was one-third. Separate reports indicate that religion in China will likely increase as an indirect result of economic activity and globalization. -World Trends &amp; Forecasts, Nov-Dec 2007, p. 10&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following item from The Futurist Top Ten Future Developments might prove relevant:<br />
9.<i> The Middle East will become more secular while religious influence in China will grow. Popular support for religious government is declining in places like Iraq, according to a University of Michigan study. The researchers report that in 2004 only one-fourth of respondents polled believed that Iraq would be a better place if religion and politics were separated. By 2007, that proportion was one-third. Separate reports indicate that religion in China will likely increase as an indirect result of economic activity and globalization. -World Trends &amp; Forecasts, Nov-Dec 2007, p. 10</i></p>
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		<title>By: Io</title>
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		<dc:creator>Io</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish more people could see this. I think that people in this country and in much of the rest of the world, view most of the Middle East as a monolith of fanaticism and backwardness. They see governments and extremists but never the everyday people -- the people who share the same kind of diversity of ideas and interests as anyone else on this planet.

Whenever I think of the recent war cries especially with regard to Iran, I also think of the thousands of students there who are already protesting and working toward social and political change. I think of a culture that has historically been one of the most diverse and literate in the world, and I hold out hope that they can return to that on their own. One thing I am certain of, however, is that war would only undermine or even destroy the pull of the people toward something better.

To me, this is just another sign of that drive, and though there&#039;s still a long way to go, it gives me a great deal of hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish more people could see this. I think that people in this country and in much of the rest of the world, view most of the Middle East as a monolith of fanaticism and backwardness. They see governments and extremists but never the everyday people &#8212; the people who share the same kind of diversity of ideas and interests as anyone else on this planet.</p>
<p>Whenever I think of the recent war cries especially with regard to Iran, I also think of the thousands of students there who are already protesting and working toward social and political change. I think of a culture that has historically been one of the most diverse and literate in the world, and I hold out hope that they can return to that on their own. One thing I am certain of, however, is that war would only undermine or even destroy the pull of the people toward something better.</p>
<p>To me, this is just another sign of that drive, and though there&#8217;s still a long way to go, it gives me a great deal of hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nadya. Good people on that board. 

Except for the Kaotik Soundsystem people, I know all the people on that thread personally, and I&#039;m proud to call many of them my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nadya. Good people on that board. </p>
<p>Except for the Kaotik Soundsystem people, I know all the people on that thread personally, and I&#8217;m proud to call many of them my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Tequila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tequila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cappy...Rollins did a series for IFC where he traveled to places like  Belfast, S.Africa, New Orleans, Israel, etc. and did his infamously funny one man shows. What&#039;s great about them is he gets an outsiders views through the eyes of locals. A down and dirty history lesson via the pulse of those living there as opposed to just media soundbites. Each episode is broken up between performance bits with an audience and footage of him with a local traveling around. Worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cappy&#8230;Rollins did a series for IFC where he traveled to places like  Belfast, S.Africa, New Orleans, Israel, etc. and did his infamously funny one man shows. What&#8217;s great about them is he gets an outsiders views through the eyes of locals. A down and dirty history lesson via the pulse of those living there as opposed to just media soundbites. Each episode is broken up between performance bits with an audience and footage of him with a local traveling around. Worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shay, that&#039;s a brilliant thread!

&quot;The idea of a gig together is fucking amazing! If our politicians cant solve problems, well we cant as well. but it doesnt mean that we cannot share the free party spirit and party together. Let the corrupted people have their own world and i would do my best to ignore them.&quot;

&quot;hey guyz... there is an important factor that is missing in both topics...here and kaotik system forum and that is ...Palestinian artists...we cannot go forward with this if we dont gather all those like minded people from all over the region...or else this would only be another party... the sence and the cause of it fades away...so as I was saying...we need palestinians also to be involved..&quot;

Bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shay, that&#8217;s a brilliant thread!</p>
<p>&#8220;The idea of a gig together is fucking amazing! If our politicians cant solve problems, well we cant as well. but it doesnt mean that we cannot share the free party spirit and party together. Let the corrupted people have their own world and i would do my best to ignore them.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;hey guyz&#8230; there is an important factor that is missing in both topics&#8230;here and kaotik system forum and that is &#8230;Palestinian artists&#8230;we cannot go forward with this if we dont gather all those like minded people from all over the region&#8230;or else this would only be another party&#8230; the sence and the cause of it fades away&#8230;so as I was saying&#8230;we need palestinians also to be involved..&#8221;</p>
<p>Bless.</p>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David - You might find &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dnb-il.com/drum-bass/t-greetings-from-lebanon-6518.html/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt; from the local drum n bass forum enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; You might find <a href="http://www.dnb-il.com/drum-bass/t-greetings-from-lebanon-6518.html/" rel="nofollow">this thread</a> from the local drum n bass forum enlightening.</p>
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