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	<title>Comments on: Ada Lovelace: Founder of Scientific Computing</title>
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		<title>By: wchambliss</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2008/12/ada-lovelace-founder-of-scientific-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-11460</link>
		<dc:creator>wchambliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bunny: To be fair, the first ARPANET deployment may have connected a computer in UCLA with one at the Stanford Research Institute, but the underlying network technology (the routers, specifically, which were then called IMPs) was designed and built in Boston at a firm called Bolt, Beranek and Newman (BBN) by the likes of Severo Ornstein, Bernie Cosell, and Will Crowther (who later wrote the game “Colossal Cave Adventure”, and who, like Ada Lovelace, has been an idol of mine for some years). 

If anyone’s interested, Katie Hafner wrote an extremely readable book about this stuff called Where Wizards Stay Up Late. I’d recommend it both to fellow history-of-technology nerds and anyone with a passing interest in how email works.

As a side-note, has anyone here heard of an Indian mathematician named Panini? In the 5th Century BCE, he pioneered what would later (and by “later”, I mean 2500 years later) be known as computational linguistics. It’s awe-inspiring how prescient this guy was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bunny: To be fair, the first ARPANET deployment may have connected a computer in UCLA with one at the Stanford Research Institute, but the underlying network technology (the routers, specifically, which were then called IMPs) was designed and built in Boston at a firm called Bolt, Beranek and Newman (BBN) by the likes of Severo Ornstein, Bernie Cosell, and Will Crowther (who later wrote the game “Colossal Cave Adventure”, and who, like Ada Lovelace, has been an idol of mine for some years). </p>
<p>If anyone’s interested, Katie Hafner wrote an extremely readable book about this stuff called Where Wizards Stay Up Late. I’d recommend it both to fellow history-of-technology nerds and anyone with a passing interest in how email works.</p>
<p>As a side-note, has anyone here heard of an Indian mathematician named Panini? In the 5th Century BCE, he pioneered what would later (and by “later”, I mean 2500 years later) be known as computational linguistics. It’s awe-inspiring how prescient this guy was.</p>
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		<title>By: bunny</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2008/12/ada-lovelace-founder-of-scientific-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-11368</link>
		<dc:creator>bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, she sounds really fascinating. Thank you for the information, Mer! 

Ignotus: While you may have read &quot;scholarly biographies&quot; that claim she is overrated, your offering the opinions of unnamed sources adds little to the discourse. I also fail to see the pertinence of her parental models where her contributions to computer science are concerned. Discarding the latter point, which I&#039;m quite beyond finding relevant, would you care to enumerate some cogent points as to why she is “overrated?”

I also think you are mistaken about the honors bestowed on Babbage serving only to quell supposed  arguments between  IBM and DOD scientists. Many examples of computational machines exist as far back as ancient Greece as seen in the Antikythera mechanism.  Even if you choose to write off the speculation as to this ancient mechanism’s function other examples remain. There is Alan Turing  and  the Colossus which was instrumental during WWII to decode German ciphers, as well as ENIAC created in 1946. 

I wonder if you&#039;re not confusing the DOD claims to originate the computer with its quite valid claim to have invented the Internet (ARPANET, born in beautiful Los Angeles, California to be precise)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, she sounds really fascinating. Thank you for the information, Mer! </p>
<p>Ignotus: While you may have read &#8220;scholarly biographies&#8221; that claim she is overrated, your offering the opinions of unnamed sources adds little to the discourse. I also fail to see the pertinence of her parental models where her contributions to computer science are concerned. Discarding the latter point, which I&#8217;m quite beyond finding relevant, would you care to enumerate some cogent points as to why she is “overrated?”</p>
<p>I also think you are mistaken about the honors bestowed on Babbage serving only to quell supposed  arguments between  IBM and DOD scientists. Many examples of computational machines exist as far back as ancient Greece as seen in the Antikythera mechanism.  Even if you choose to write off the speculation as to this ancient mechanism’s function other examples remain. There is Alan Turing  and  the Colossus which was instrumental during WWII to decode German ciphers, as well as ENIAC created in 1946. </p>
<p>I wonder if you&#8217;re not confusing the DOD claims to originate the computer with its quite valid claim to have invented the Internet (ARPANET, born in beautiful Los Angeles, California to be precise)?</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2008/12/ada-lovelace-founder-of-scientific-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-11367</link>
		<dc:creator>R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*feels bad because she gave away her copy of The Difference Engine without reading it*

You learn something new everyday. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*feels bad because she gave away her copy of The Difference Engine without reading it*</p>
<p>You learn something new everyday. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Nadya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cappy: Actually, that&#039;s exactly what I liked about it. They were writing the archetypal steampunk novel and it would&#039;ve been SUCH an obvious, easy choice to make her ZOMG THE KICK-ASS QUEEN OF NUMBERS but instead they chose to make her a really flawed person. Like, they exaggerated all her flaws. She wasn&#039;t likeable at all. And I loved that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cappy: Actually, that&#8217;s exactly what I liked about it. They were writing the archetypal steampunk novel and it would&#8217;ve been SUCH an obvious, easy choice to make her ZOMG THE KICK-ASS QUEEN OF NUMBERS but instead they chose to make her a really flawed person. Like, they exaggerated all her flaws. She wasn&#8217;t likeable at all. And I loved that.</p>
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		<title>By: cappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nadya

I for one didn&#039;t like her depiction in The Difference Engine -- wasn&#039;t she made out to be a bit of a tart?

But aye, anytime someone says women haven&#039;t been present in Computer Science&#039;s history, I kindly point out Ada Lovelace and Grace Hopper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nadya</p>
<p>I for one didn&#8217;t like her depiction in The Difference Engine &#8212; wasn&#8217;t she made out to be a bit of a tart?</p>
<p>But aye, anytime someone says women haven&#8217;t been present in Computer Science&#8217;s history, I kindly point out Ada Lovelace and Grace Hopper.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is also a bigtime crossword puzzle answer. I mean, there&#039;s Nabokov&#039;s novel, and there&#039;s her.

RP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is also a bigtime crossword puzzle answer. I mean, there&#8217;s Nabokov&#8217;s novel, and there&#8217;s her.</p>
<p>RP</p>
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		<title>By: Jerem Morrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerem Morrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so my education continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so my education continues.</p>
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		<title>By: john colby</title>
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		<dc:creator>john colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She liked to play the ponies...a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She liked to play the ponies&#8230;a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a huge fan of Ada. I loved the character that Sterling/Gibson made out of her in &lt;i&gt;The Difference Engine&lt;/i&gt;, and I also enjoyed &lt;i&gt;Conceiving Ada&lt;/i&gt;. Although a lot of her accomplishments have passed into legend, I actually like to think of her in a more romantic way than what she probably actually accomplished as a programmer. Simply put: she&#039;s a muse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of Ada. I loved the character that Sterling/Gibson made out of her in <i>The Difference Engine</i>, and I also enjoyed <i>Conceiving Ada</i>. Although a lot of her accomplishments have passed into legend, I actually like to think of her in a more romantic way than what she probably actually accomplished as a programmer. Simply put: she&#8217;s a muse.</p>
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		<title>By: Valentina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valentina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was only a few days ago that I was trying to remember her name. A true genius, so ahead of her time.  I&#039;m intrigued to see the film now. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was only a few days ago that I was trying to remember her name. A true genius, so ahead of her time.  I&#8217;m intrigued to see the film now. Great post!</p>
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