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		<title>By: David Forbes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Forbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emera: I&#039;m glad the column got you interested in his short work. There&#039;s some good stuff in there and I wish you happy reading. 

I think I&#039;d have a lot less problem with Card&#039;s more recent stuff if his views on marriage, etc. had remained his personal views -- I disagree with plenty of my favorite writers about plenty of things -- but he&#039;s insisted on becoming an active advocate. That&#039;s the line, in my opinion.

greenpencil, Kale Kip: I don&#039;t sleep.

In all seriousness: poverty. I grew up in a remote area and was so absolutely broke during college that I couldn&#039;t really travel or go out much. I still read a lot, and plenty of sci-fi, but that and great luck in finding used bookstores with treasure troves of cheap (a dime to fifty cents) sci-fi books are the factors responsible for finding a lot of the works I feaure here.

Sam, Slinka: Card does love his characters, quite a bit, and he&#039;s responsible for some of the most realistically-fleshed out ones I&#039;ve read. To me that makes his recent descent all the more saddening: one would hope that someone who can understand the human mind and soul so well would be able to see the world around him with less dogma.

There&#039;s an experience that stuck in my mind as I was writing this column: a number of years ago, I got to be on a panel of journalists grilling Jerry Falwell. What shocked me was that in person, Falwell came off as a jolly old uncle type, polite and humorous even as we were throwing barbed questions at him. He almost seemed... harmless; until you processed what he was saying, and its implications for millions of human lives if he ever got his way.

Now, I won&#039;t say Card&#039;s analogous to Falwell. For all his flaws, Card&#039;s left the world with some very beautiful things, while Falwell left it with fear and hate. But it&#039;s a reminder that the world doesn&#039;t often grant us the mercy of having the enemies of a better world be the outright bastards we&#039;d like them to be.

Jerem: The old &quot;artist and their art&quot; argument&#039;s never going to go away and not all cases are as extreme as the discussions on Leni Riefenstahl that were going on here awhile back.

But in this case, I think it&#039;s a change of person too. The old Card is not today&#039;s Card, literary or otherwise. As he&#039;s gotten older, Card&#039;s become more stereotypical, less nuanced and more aggressive. 

That&#039;s sad, but as I said, it&#039;s sometimes a good thing that stories outgrow their authors. Ender&#039;s Game is still as stunning as it always was, and will remain so. Whatever Card does won&#039;t kill my enjoyment and love for it.

Tequila: I... just thank you. Thank you a lot.

And please, send me your writing on the crime fiction books. Stat. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emera: I&#8217;m glad the column got you interested in his short work. There&#8217;s some good stuff in there and I wish you happy reading. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;d have a lot less problem with Card&#8217;s more recent stuff if his views on marriage, etc. had remained his personal views &#8212; I disagree with plenty of my favorite writers about plenty of things &#8212; but he&#8217;s insisted on becoming an active advocate. That&#8217;s the line, in my opinion.</p>
<p>greenpencil, Kale Kip: I don&#8217;t sleep.</p>
<p>In all seriousness: poverty. I grew up in a remote area and was so absolutely broke during college that I couldn&#8217;t really travel or go out much. I still read a lot, and plenty of sci-fi, but that and great luck in finding used bookstores with treasure troves of cheap (a dime to fifty cents) sci-fi books are the factors responsible for finding a lot of the works I feaure here.</p>
<p>Sam, Slinka: Card does love his characters, quite a bit, and he&#8217;s responsible for some of the most realistically-fleshed out ones I&#8217;ve read. To me that makes his recent descent all the more saddening: one would hope that someone who can understand the human mind and soul so well would be able to see the world around him with less dogma.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an experience that stuck in my mind as I was writing this column: a number of years ago, I got to be on a panel of journalists grilling Jerry Falwell. What shocked me was that in person, Falwell came off as a jolly old uncle type, polite and humorous even as we were throwing barbed questions at him. He almost seemed&#8230; harmless; until you processed what he was saying, and its implications for millions of human lives if he ever got his way.</p>
<p>Now, I won&#8217;t say Card&#8217;s analogous to Falwell. For all his flaws, Card&#8217;s left the world with some very beautiful things, while Falwell left it with fear and hate. But it&#8217;s a reminder that the world doesn&#8217;t often grant us the mercy of having the enemies of a better world be the outright bastards we&#8217;d like them to be.</p>
<p>Jerem: The old &#8220;artist and their art&#8221; argument&#8217;s never going to go away and not all cases are as extreme as the discussions on Leni Riefenstahl that were going on here awhile back.</p>
<p>But in this case, I think it&#8217;s a change of person too. The old Card is not today&#8217;s Card, literary or otherwise. As he&#8217;s gotten older, Card&#8217;s become more stereotypical, less nuanced and more aggressive. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s sad, but as I said, it&#8217;s sometimes a good thing that stories outgrow their authors. Ender&#8217;s Game is still as stunning as it always was, and will remain so. Whatever Card does won&#8217;t kill my enjoyment and love for it.</p>
<p>Tequila: I&#8230; just thank you. Thank you a lot.</p>
<p>And please, send me your writing on the crime fiction books. Stat. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tequila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tequila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 09:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having never been too heavily into Sci-Fi growing up and old I&#039;ve enjoyed these articles quite a bit. I tend to pop back and forth through them...always key to keep an eye out when I go book hunting.

It&#039;s inspired me enough to write about the various crime fiction books I&#039;ve enjoyed over the years...and about the men and women who&#039;ve written them. 

Damn you Mr. Forbes! Educating and inspiring people to read and write...what&#039;s next? Some sort of Oprah inspired Coilhouse Book Club? (gotta admit I&#039;d like to see the book jacket sticker Zo would design for that...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having never been too heavily into Sci-Fi growing up and old I&#8217;ve enjoyed these articles quite a bit. I tend to pop back and forth through them&#8230;always key to keep an eye out when I go book hunting.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s inspired me enough to write about the various crime fiction books I&#8217;ve enjoyed over the years&#8230;and about the men and women who&#8217;ve written them. </p>
<p>Damn you Mr. Forbes! Educating and inspiring people to read and write&#8230;what&#8217;s next? Some sort of Oprah inspired Coilhouse Book Club? (gotta admit I&#8217;d like to see the book jacket sticker Zo would design for that&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jerem Morrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerem Morrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Met the man once and have t&#039;say, he wasn&#039;t the total douche I expected. At first. Then he spoke at length and it all fell apart. Hell, my son&#039;s middle name is Ender...I dunno, gotta separate the art from the artist, quite often, but this just...stank. We all evolve, and who&#039;s to say Card&#039;s path is wrong? Oh wait, I will. Love his Wiggin series, beginning to end (Having not read the Bean books). But the man honestly goes so far as to make me shy from rereading them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Met the man once and have t&#8217;say, he wasn&#8217;t the total douche I expected. At first. Then he spoke at length and it all fell apart. Hell, my son&#8217;s middle name is Ender&#8230;I dunno, gotta separate the art from the artist, quite often, but this just&#8230;stank. We all evolve, and who&#8217;s to say Card&#8217;s path is wrong? Oh wait, I will. Love his Wiggin series, beginning to end (Having not read the Bean books). But the man honestly goes so far as to make me shy from rereading them.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slinka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as his politics saddens me, I&#039;ll always have a soft spot for Card. Even recently while re-reading Saints, and Sarah (from his Women of Genesis series), I find myself giving a lot of leeway to a creator who loves his characters so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as his politics saddens me, I&#8217;ll always have a soft spot for Card. Even recently while re-reading Saints, and Sarah (from his Women of Genesis series), I find myself giving a lot of leeway to a creator who loves his characters so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several years ago, my friend Stephanie went to one of Card&#039;s book signings.  She told him that his most recent sequels to the Ender&#039;s Game series were terrible.  He agreed and bought her a doughnut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several years ago, my friend Stephanie went to one of Card&#8217;s book signings.  She told him that his most recent sequels to the Ender&#8217;s Game series were terrible.  He agreed and bought her a doughnut.</p>
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		<title>By: Links and Things &#171; Enter the Octopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links and Things &#171; Enter the Octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A look back at Orson Scott Card&#8217;s &#8220;The Changed Man&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kale Kip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kale Kip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 15:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is what I wondered</description>
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		<title>By: greenpencil</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenpencil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn David, how do you manage to read so much?</description>
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		<title>By: Emera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 06:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review, as always! I&#039;ve been enjoying this column so much, and adding nearly all of the featured books to my to-read list.  Having long traversed much of Bradbury&#039;s short fiction back and forth, I&#039;m really excited to try out Card&#039;s old stuff! (as stupid as it sounds, I&#039;m so centered on the Ender and Bean books that I&#039;ve never really looked beyond them, so much so that I didn&#039;t even know how much short fiction he&#039;s written.)

I&#039;m also looking forward to reading your discussion of the decline of short fiction, since I&#039;m rather obsessed with short stories.

It&#039;s really a shame about Card&#039;s personal views though. As much as the reader in me wants to wholeheartedly be in love with his work, and him as an author by extension, there&#039;s a huge chunk of me that just recoils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review, as always! I&#8217;ve been enjoying this column so much, and adding nearly all of the featured books to my to-read list.  Having long traversed much of Bradbury&#8217;s short fiction back and forth, I&#8217;m really excited to try out Card&#8217;s old stuff! (as stupid as it sounds, I&#8217;m so centered on the Ender and Bean books that I&#8217;ve never really looked beyond them, so much so that I didn&#8217;t even know how much short fiction he&#8217;s written.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also looking forward to reading your discussion of the decline of short fiction, since I&#8217;m rather obsessed with short stories.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a shame about Card&#8217;s personal views though. As much as the reader in me wants to wholeheartedly be in love with his work, and him as an author by extension, there&#8217;s a huge chunk of me that just recoils.</p>
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