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	<title>Comments on: Sparrow Songs: Episode 3: Pornstar Karaoke</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2010/01/sparrow-songs-episode-3-pornstar-karaoke/comment-page-1/#comment-24847</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course.

The very name - &quot;&lt;b&gt;Industry&lt;/b&gt; Porn&quot; implies there are industrial standards, not something i&#039;d like to be seen applied to people, definitely not to sex. 

I don&#039;t see a problem with, say, a couple, or friends, or whatever, that want to film their sexual experiences, or even stage sexual scenarios and put them out for all to see. 
It&#039;s just that that&#039;s hardly ever the pornography one runs into.
Of the porn I&#039;ve seen, I can say that in all of it women were depicting victimization - schoolgirls sleeping with their teachers for better grades, secretaries with their bosses, stranded drivers with mechanics ect. - all situations promoting a misogynistic world view where women&#039;s only legitimate tool to forward their interests is their sexuality and a warped take on sexuality where sex is a thing that is given by or taken from women, never an act where both sides are equally situated. 
And that is what most pornography is about. I see it as a tool used for suppressing women, and it&#039;s dangerous because while most pornographic products hide behind disclaimers  stating said product is intended for adult use only, it&#039;s fairly well known that pornography is consumed by most teenagers and is considered an integral step in becoming sexually mature. This contributes to the image women have in modern society (As socially weak, sexually dependent individuals who enjoy being forced into a lower social caste - I have yet to meet a real live woman who would enjoy meeting up with three completely strange men, immediately engage in  somewhat extreme sexual intercourse with them, have them all ejaculate on her face and leave, yet this is how a lot of women are depicted in porn) and it would be irresponsible to say that people don&#039;t form connections in their minds between this and their real sexual worldview. 

I&#039;m not even going into the unrealistic body image pornography (and mainstream modelling) promotes, and how it is responsible for a lot of eating disorders, low self esteem and monetary investment in dangerous and needless plastic surgery. 

So, yes, I&#039;m sure there&#039;s pornography that depicts a loving and equal relationship between two (or more) individuals who all have realistically flawed bodies that are nonetheless represented as sexual and erotic,
but that&#039;s hardly what you usually run into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course.</p>
<p>The very name &#8211; &#8220;<b>Industry</b> Porn&#8221; implies there are industrial standards, not something i&#8217;d like to be seen applied to people, definitely not to sex. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a problem with, say, a couple, or friends, or whatever, that want to film their sexual experiences, or even stage sexual scenarios and put them out for all to see.<br />
It&#8217;s just that that&#8217;s hardly ever the pornography one runs into.<br />
Of the porn I&#8217;ve seen, I can say that in all of it women were depicting victimization &#8211; schoolgirls sleeping with their teachers for better grades, secretaries with their bosses, stranded drivers with mechanics ect. &#8211; all situations promoting a misogynistic world view where women&#8217;s only legitimate tool to forward their interests is their sexuality and a warped take on sexuality where sex is a thing that is given by or taken from women, never an act where both sides are equally situated.<br />
And that is what most pornography is about. I see it as a tool used for suppressing women, and it&#8217;s dangerous because while most pornographic products hide behind disclaimers  stating said product is intended for adult use only, it&#8217;s fairly well known that pornography is consumed by most teenagers and is considered an integral step in becoming sexually mature. This contributes to the image women have in modern society (As socially weak, sexually dependent individuals who enjoy being forced into a lower social caste &#8211; I have yet to meet a real live woman who would enjoy meeting up with three completely strange men, immediately engage in  somewhat extreme sexual intercourse with them, have them all ejaculate on her face and leave, yet this is how a lot of women are depicted in porn) and it would be irresponsible to say that people don&#8217;t form connections in their minds between this and their real sexual worldview. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even going into the unrealistic body image pornography (and mainstream modelling) promotes, and how it is responsible for a lot of eating disorders, low self esteem and monetary investment in dangerous and needless plastic surgery. </p>
<p>So, yes, I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s pornography that depicts a loving and equal relationship between two (or more) individuals who all have realistically flawed bodies that are nonetheless represented as sexual and erotic,<br />
but that&#8217;s hardly what you usually run into.</p>
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		<title>By: Mer</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2010/01/sparrow-songs-episode-3-pornstar-karaoke/comment-page-1/#comment-24841</link>
		<dc:creator>Mer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, I completely hear what you&#039;re saying, but I think you&#039;re painting with some pretty broad, sweeping strokes... and as far as porn goes, there are many, MANY different strokes for different folks. Can I assume that, like Lulu, you&#039;re referring to more mainstream &quot;industry&quot; porn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, I completely hear what you&#8217;re saying, but I think you&#8217;re painting with some pretty broad, sweeping strokes&#8230; and as far as porn goes, there are many, MANY different strokes for different folks. Can I assume that, like Lulu, you&#8217;re referring to more mainstream &#8220;industry&#8221; porn?</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
		<link>http://coilhouse.net/2010/01/sparrow-songs-episode-3-pornstar-karaoke/comment-page-1/#comment-24839</link>
		<dc:creator>R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porn is like a double-edged sword. You have porn that is made by people (males and females) who want to take out the objectifying and the chauvinism and just make a movie glorifying sex. Then you have porn that just makes people turn into mindless chauvinistic/misogynist dimwits.

One good person to check out how they view the porn industry is Violet Blue. Another is Annie Sprinkle, a former pornstar turned sex educator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porn is like a double-edged sword. You have porn that is made by people (males and females) who want to take out the objectifying and the chauvinism and just make a movie glorifying sex. Then you have porn that just makes people turn into mindless chauvinistic/misogynist dimwits.</p>
<p>One good person to check out how they view the porn industry is Violet Blue. Another is Annie Sprinkle, a former pornstar turned sex educator.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lulu, my thoughts exactly.
One of the biggest problems with pornography is that it&#039;s considered &quot;legitimate&quot;. I&#039;m not talking legally, but socially.
It&#039;s a problem because it means that people don&#039;t look at it as an industry that exploits people, objectifies women&#039;s bodies, deepens chauvinistic and mysogenic social views and all this under the guise of fun, sexuality and free choice. 
Even if the pornstars themselves live happy, fulfilling lives (as you can see in the movie, some of them have a very strong disassociation from themselves while they &quot;work&quot; - not a sign of a great emotional state) the product they produce is harmful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lulu, my thoughts exactly.<br />
One of the biggest problems with pornography is that it&#8217;s considered &#8220;legitimate&#8221;. I&#8217;m not talking legally, but socially.<br />
It&#8217;s a problem because it means that people don&#8217;t look at it as an industry that exploits people, objectifies women&#8217;s bodies, deepens chauvinistic and mysogenic social views and all this under the guise of fun, sexuality and free choice.<br />
Even if the pornstars themselves live happy, fulfilling lives (as you can see in the movie, some of them have a very strong disassociation from themselves while they &#8220;work&#8221; &#8211; not a sign of a great emotional state) the product they produce is harmful.</p>
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		<title>By: Lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Porn doesn&#039;t do harm to anybody?&quot; He must be ignorant about the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Porn doesn&#8217;t do harm to anybody?&#8221; He must be ignorant about the industry.</p>
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